The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. Am I missing something? If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. . His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. It has very bad energy. Its never been made clear. Deal refused. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. He lived in 1928, at address, Connecticut. With Andrew unwilling or unable to pay the going rate, likely to be thousands of pounds per week, Charles has decided to kick the Sussexes out of the five-bedroom Frogmore Cottage and offer the keys to his younger brother, who is resisting. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. All Filters. A correction to the comment above. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Search their Criminal Records, Contact Info, Photos and More 1) Andrew Katrinak's Phone & Current Address, Andrew Katrinak's Phone #, Address & More, Andrew Katrinak's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@gmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@yahoo, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@hotmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@aol, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@outlook. Not gender neutral. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. Great communicator. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. He added: No official diagnosis has been confirmed and he is in good shape and is staying strong. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. They are a joke. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. This is not a health issue to be taken lightly and all due diligence is being made to make sure he gets the best medical care that is available to him., The influencer has made appeals against his detention since his arrest. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. . Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Chambers also didn't want to speak about her daughter. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. They added that doctors in Romania and Dubai wrote medical documents which confirmed he has a lesion on his upper right lung, which could be a sign a tumour has developed. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. Username. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Do not sell or share my personal information. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. And Patricia wasnt all edges. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. . Tragedy also touched Patricias life. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? That woman has no soul. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. ``They let 'em know who's boss.'. Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. Andrew lived at address. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. 5 years prior to all this happening! Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. M.L. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. If the answer is no, enough said! Just one example. A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. 4 Matches for Andrew Katrinak . Stop. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Prosecutors offered Patricia a plea deal that would take the death penalty off the table, but she declined. False. Claps! They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. The real killer is Rorrer! ``People who work with horses, they love 'em, rub 'em, pet 'em, and at the same time they can be firm with 'em, jerk their bits if they need to,' Hege said. Not everything is a conspiracy. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Police said the couple moved in together and had a 1-year-old baby daughter. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. ``They did the technical stuff, DNA testing and all that, and we did the grunt police work,' Hege said. Byrd Jr. of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? And she will have to answer eventually. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Your comment will be posted to MailOnline as usual. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. Patricia L. Rorrer was taken into custody from the Linwood home she shared with her boyfriend and 1-year-old daughter on June 24, 1997. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. Book her. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Some lawyers call microscopic hair analysis junk science that today wouldnt qualify as evidence in a trial like Rorrers. Authorities said the 3-month-old died either of suffocation or of exposure while lying on his mother's stomach. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). They are total bs. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Do you want to automatically post your MailOnline comments to your Facebook Timeline? The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. Resides in Bethlehem, PA. Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. Jul 11, 1929 - Sep 10, 2011 (Age 82) Plant Memorial Trees Opens send flowers url in a new window I would have liked better her being put to death! If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. What a contrived case! Andrew married Mary A Katrinak (born Ondek). At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Several years ago, Jost's teenage son, Steven, helped Rorrer in her part-time job as a child photographer. Under supervision of a doctor, 39 hair specimens were removed, recorded and logged. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. You can choose on each post whether you would like it to be posted to Facebook. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. She definitely did it. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? Mrs. Katrinak's husband, Andrew, reported his wife and son missing in December 1994 after they failed to show up at his mother's house. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. Their bodies were found nearly four months later. Animals would have for sure. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. Myers knew little about Rorrer's troubles. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. Other family members and associates include Paige Keenan . Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. I cant lose them, he told the media. I expect she will admit it one day. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Pal stays true. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! Had there been a switch? Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Justice is about uncovering the truth. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. Why not question some of this evidence? The FBI even included a written report to that effect. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex.
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